04/06/2005 08:30 AM House RULES

HB  35-EXTEND BD ARCHITECTS/ENGINEERS/SURVEYORS                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:39:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROKEBERG announced  that the first order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL  NO. 35, "An Act extending the  termination date of                                                               
the State  Board of Registration  for Architects,  Engineers, and                                                               
Land Surveyors; and providing for an effective date."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:39:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOHRING explained  that HB  35 extends  the State                                                               
Board  of  Registration  for   Architects,  Engineers,  and  Land                                                               
Surveyors to 2009.  Based on  a recent audit from the Legislative                                                               
Audit  Division  there is  a  compelling  reason to  extend  this                                                               
board.   In the House  Finance Committee, the  position landscape                                                               
architect was  added as a voting  member upon the request  of the                                                               
[board].   However, since  that time [the  board] has  decided to                                                               
return to  the current  statute, which  specifies 10  members and                                                               
doesn't allow the  landscape architect to vote.   The feeling was                                                               
that there  aren't enough  landscape architects  in the  state to                                                               
warrant full voting membership.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:41:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HARRIS   asked  if  Representative   Kohring  was                                                               
offering an amendment to that effect.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOHRING said  that he would be happy  to offer the                                                               
amendment at the appropriate time.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:42:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  inquired as  to why  landscape architects                                                               
were included as a voting member.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOHRING  recalled  that   in  the  House  Finance                                                               
Committee it was  felt that the landscape  architect industry has                                                               
evolved to  the point  at which  there are  enough people  in the                                                               
industry to  be a player  in the  process, and therefore  have an                                                               
equivalent  position as  other members  on the  board.   However,                                                               
there was  testimony, including from  Representative Holm  who is                                                               
in the  industry, that there  aren't enough  landscape architects                                                               
in the industry to be a full voting member of the board.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:43:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ROKEBERG  recalled that  about  six  to eight  years  ago,                                                               
landscape  architects were  added to  the board  and there  was a                                                               
substantial controversy  at that  time.  The  legislature allowed                                                               
the landscape architects  to be a nonvoting member  of the board.                                                               
This has been an ongoing controversy, he noted.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:44:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOHRING  moved that the committee  adopt Amendment                                                               
1, labeled 24-LS0273\G.1, Bannister, 4/2/05, which read:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, lines 2 - 3:                                                                                                       
          Delete "relating to the membership of the State                                                                     
      Board of Registration for Architects, Engineers, and                                                                    
     Land Surveyors;"                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 9, through page 2, line 17:                                                                                   
          Delete all material.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill section accordingly.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HARRIS objected.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOHRING specified  that Amendment  1 would  allow                                                               
the  landscape architect  to  remain on  the  board, although  it                                                               
would remove the landscape architect's voting ability.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:45:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOHRING withdrew his motion to adopt Amendment 1.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:45:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOHRING moved to  adopt HB 35, Version 24-LS0273\A                                                               
as the working document.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCGUIRE objected, and  requested that someone from                                                               
the State  Board of Registration  for Architects,  Engineers, and                                                               
Land Surveyors come  by to discuss this more.   She then withdrew                                                               
her objection.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOHRING  said he would make  arrangements for such                                                               
a visit with a member of the board.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG  requested that  Representative  Kohring                                                               
obtain a letter from the  Professional Design Council in order to                                                               
allay concerns.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HARRIS  requested  a letter  from  the  landscape                                                               
architects  because audit  recommendation  3  specifies that  the                                                               
legislature  should  consider   making  the  landscape  architect                                                               
member a voting member.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Although it  was not formally  announced, the  committee treated                                                               
HB 35 as adopted and before it.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:48 a.m. to 8:49 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:50:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HARRIS  moved  to   report  HB  35,  Version  24-                                                               
LS0273\A, out  of committee  with individual  recommendations and                                                               
the accompanying fiscal  notes.  There being no  objection, HB 35                                                               
was reported from the House Rules Standing Committee.